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Savaş Çekici => Warhammer Fantasy Battles => Konuyu başlatan: sargon - Ağustos 02, 2011, 07:32:04 ÖS
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http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312627
MORE! :o :o :o
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Çok güzel gözüküyolar, gözün aydın deniz.
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Baya mobil olmuş ogreler sanki?
Bakıyoruz:
-Stonehorn
-Rhinox riders
-Mammox riders
-Rhinox üstünde great bi cannon
şeklinde giden bi liste var.
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Modeller çok iyi olmuş...
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Baya mobil olmuş ogreler sanki?
Evet, son iki dakikadır gülüyorum bu lafa.
Dev katır, öküz ve dinazor ile..
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Baya mobil olmuş ogreler sanki?
Evet, son iki dakikadır gülüyorum bu lafa.
Dev katır, öküz ve dinazor ile..
Flintstones, meet the Flintstones...
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Abi dev, taştan yapılmış kaykayların üstünde ogreler hayal ettim bir an. Korkunçtu! 6 MV yetmiyor herhalde. Heh.
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Sabah waseer'a girdim baktım, şimdi tekrar gireyim dedim filtre yedi, açılmadı. Hay allam nedir bu böyle. >:(
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Sabah girdiğin içerikten bunun bir oyun sitesi olduğunu anladıysa hemen atmıştır filtreye :D Bu kadar akıllı mıydı sizin program bilmiyom ama sistem yöneticisi de atmış olabilir. Bilgisayarlar aktif dizinde değilse yani admin yetkisiyle açabiliyorsanız, IE ya da Firefox için proxy ayarlarını değiştir bi tomar beleş proxy sitesi vardır. Ya da hidemyass.com gibi browser proxyleri deneyebilirsin tabi bunlarda filtre kapsamındadır ama google amcada bir tomar vardır belki olmayanı bulursun hehehe...
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Stonehorn nedir yaw?
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Ya da;
Somebody posted that roundup so I will just correct what I know to be wrong:
LORDS:
- Tyrant
- Slaughtermaster
+2 special characters
HEROES:
- Butcher
- Hunter (Stonehorn mount option?)
- Bruiser
- fire wizard thingy
+2 special characters
CORE: Sparse compared to other races, trends in counts-towards-minimum core units (and total) -- SK: 4(6), BM: 4(5), OG: 7(??), TK: 5(5)
- Bulls
- Ironguts
- Gnoblar Fighters
SPECIAL: 6+ options is typical trend (SK: 6, BM: 6, OG: 10, TK: 8)
- Leadbelchers
- Yhetees
- Maneaters
- Sabertusk Riders
- Scrap Launcher thats RARE
- Stonehorn* speculation, may be rare RARE
-- Gnoblar Trappers are rumoured to not be in the new book (maybe an upgrade for Fighters?) - got that second bit right by the sound of it.
-Sabertusks packs
RARE:
- Gorger
- 'Mammox'
- Slavegiant
- Ironblaster
Originally Posted by eastern barbarian View Post
OK ,few answers to few questions to the best of my knowledge:
There is no special character called Jared and Golfang/Golfgang (not sure how you spell him?) will NOT be a n unit upgrade. That is of course not confirmed, but so far my source had been really spot on.
As for magic- all i managed to find is that ogres have 3 augment spells, direct damage spell, hex spell and magic missile spell . Signature spell is also an augment.
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Adminler eklenti boyutunu biraz artırsak :)
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Ohh, post kastım. ;D
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ya buen vampire sonra ogre bizde yeni model istiyoz en büyük bizim large targetlarımız bizde istiyoz
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Oha! ve Harika!, ben kolay kolay beğenmiyorum nedense GW'nin boyama işlerini ama bunlar harika duruyor
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GW benim paletimden ilham alarak normal cilt renginde ogre'lere döndü! :D
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Eywallah Veysel.
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Stonehorn nedir yaw?
Benim gönderdiğim resimlerden 2.sindeki canazor. Resmin altında ufacıcık yazıyor.
Eywallah Veysel.
Rica ederim.
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Bir iki rumour daha.
-Ogre'ler gut magic dahil 4 lore kullanabilecek. Fire kesin, death ve beast bekleniyo. Belki heaven.
-Bir adet ogre bull'un özeti:
close combatta 4+as/6+p.save , 3 atak, t4, 3 wound, ve parry save'i ignore eden, ap ogre club. Daha güzeli bunlar 30 puanın altında.
-yaratıkların alayının 4+as olabilir. daha iyi ya da kötü beklenmiyo.
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Parry save ignore dersen üzersin beni, deme.
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ogreler zaten monsters infantry değil mi onlara zaten parry save atmıyon yanlışmıyım ???
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Parry save ignore dersen üzersin beni, deme.
Dahası da var leventçim:
There is a very reliable way to make opponents Always Strike Last.
All ogres seem cheaper. Slightly cheaper or nearly a third cheaper - the elites have a much lower cost per model.
Maneaters got weird rules that I wouldn't believe if I read them on a rumour forum.
Leadbelchers are good now. I think you can build a really, really shooty ogre army.
ogreler zaten monsters infantry değil mi onlara zaten parry save atmıyon yanlışmıyım ???
sadece stomp attack'lara parry atılamıyo değil miydi?
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ASL acık yalan gözüktü bana. Evet parry nin atılamadığı durumlar: stomp, Impact, birşeylere binmek, büyülü kalkan yada silah kullanmak.
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ASL acık yalan gözüktü bana. Evet parry nin atılamadığı durumlar: stomp, Impact, birşeylere binmek, büyülü kalkan yada silah kullanmak.
ogre clubları ınfantry katliyamı yapcak desene
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Magic:
Ogre Magic has been reworked and spellcasting now works the same way as for all wizards. Spells are pretty much similar to what they used to be, except they last until next magic phase and are not RIP. Lore attribute is bloodgruel - on 2+ mage gains 1 wound and +1 to cast for his next spell, on a 1 takes an S6 hit.
Ogre mages can take great maw, death, heavens and beasts magic.
New mage model is the firebelly, who uses lore of fire, costs araound a fifth more than an empire cannon, can be upgraded to lvl 2 for the standard price of a wizard upgrade, can take a great weapon or extra hand weapon and has S4 breath attack, flaming attacks and 4+ ward vs fire.
Magic items and big names:
Big names still there and come out of magic item allowance. Didn't get changed that much from what you currently have. Best one is probably giantbreaker - doesn't require giant in the army - for the cost of dispel scroll model can't refuse challenges or flee but gets +1S.
Magic items are few and generally meh compared with common items. Thundermace basically gives you one thundercrush attack just like the sphinx has for a ton of points. Most interesting item is hellheart, which causes a miscast in all enemy mages within 5xD6" at the beginning of enemy magic phase - one use only, costs 2 scrolls.
Core units now include ironguts at five points less than they used to be, and with all command models costed at +10 points (which is same across the book).
You can get 40 gnoblars for the cost of one dark elf sorceress, and they come with throwing weapons attached and no prerequisites.
Special units got a lot of changes, leadbelchers will now fire D6 shots every turn, no misfires, and are move and fire with no penalty for moving. They cost one point less than Yhetees, which cost one point less than talisman of preservation.
Maneaters are half an empire cannon in points, and basically choose two special rules (you cannot chose the same special rule for two units) from a group of 8 - including poisoned attacks, sniper, stubborn, swiftride, strider, vanguard, itp, scout.
Mournfang cavalry is the new heavy cav, with a lot of options (potentially a 2+ armour save), tons of attacks and a price tag that is in the vicinity of a bloodcrusher, depending on what armour/weapons you take. 3 wounds, D3 impact hits and a total of 7 attacks per model make them somewhat fearsome.
Gorger is now special and gets a bit more expensive, but loses the rule by which it had to end movement closer to an enemy unit. It does have frenzy, unbreakable, killing blow and ambusher special rules.
Rare
Scrapalauncher is rare, slightly cheaper I think and similar to what it does now (S3 KB catapult)
Ironblaster is an empire cannon with horrible fluff and a pretty unpleasant misfire chart. It is nearly as expensive as a hydra, but has move and fire, S10 grapeshot and a special rule that allows you to roll two dice for bounce and chose the highest, even if one is a misfire.
The two mammoth-like critters are:
the stonehorn, which can have a mounted harpoon launcher (S6 D3 wounds 36" bolt thrower that doesn't penetrate ranks and is move and fire if mounted), 4+ armour save, does a lot of S6 impact hits on the charge, has dragon-like stats (but lower WS, Ld and initiative), M7, 4+ armour save and a special rule which halves the damage from all multiple-wound weapons that hit it.
and
the thundertusk, which is a support version of the above - has a mounted catapult that doesn't get hurt in any way by misfires, a harpoon and a 12" S6 KB weapon (chaintrap) - 3 weapons on its back, and gives all enemy models within 6" ASL. The tradeoff is - no impact hits and one less attack.
Both of these big beasties cost as much as around 5 wraiths.
A stonehorn can also be the mount for a hunter, which costs almost as much as a high elf prince.
Last but not least: the sabertusk. Special unit, 1-10 unit size. Each one has 3 S4 attacks, so aside from being the redirector of your dreams, it can sometimes work as a mage assassin. One costs slightly more than 4 halberdiers. T4 and two wounds.
They can't use general's leadership or battle standard re-roll, and their own LD is 4 - and can only be joined by a hunter - so I would say they will only come in two unit sizes - 1 or 10+hunter. This second option is not so bad - the unit will cost you some 350 points, but it has vanguard, swiftstride, and 30 S4 WS4 I4 attacks + whatever the hunter brings.
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o değil de kitabı sızdırmışlar.
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=115976&d=1312969379)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9895/ogre1zy.jpg)
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-bulls cost 30p,
-ironguts cost 43p,
-gnoblars cost 2.5p with possible trappers upgrade,
-leadbelchers 43p,
-maneaters 50p,
-sabertusk pack 21p,
-yhetees 44p,
-mournfang cavalery 60p (for 7 atacks and d3 impacts),
-gorger 90p,
-scraplauncher 130p,
-ironblaster 170p,
-giant 200p (stubborn),
-stonehorn and thundertusk 250p.
-gut magic, 6 spells, 1 magic missile, 3 augment spells, 1 hex, 1 small template direct dmg spell + signature spell witch gives stubborn to target range 12/18"
-Tyrant 210,
-slaughtemaster 250,
-butcher 100,
-bruiser 105,
-hunter 130,
-firebelly 120,
-clubs are hand weapons now from what i see,
-if you roll 10 or more there is d3 impacts rather than 1
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puanlama açısından 'empire cannon'un yarısı', 'dispel scrol'dan 2 fazla' hesabı benim için daha eğlenceliydi :P
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puanlama açısından 'empire cannon'un yarısı', 'dispel scrol'dan 2 fazla' hesabı benim için daha eğlenceliydi :P
ogre stronghold'da gnoblar cinsindendi puan kısmısı :D
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Bende okurken gıcık oldum abi 5 warith parasına yok efernim talisman of prev in 1 altının 1 altına filan. 40 yapar diye çıkacak biri arkadan bekledim yani :)
O değilde bu cover art değildir umarım. Çok kötü...
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Daha fazla resim:
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116161&d=1313265589)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116162&d=1313265589)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116163&d=1313265589)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116164&d=1313265589)
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116165&d=1313265589)
beğenmedim ben.
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Ben beğendim ya tipleri ve modelleri...
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Ben de beğendim abi çok güzeller. Ağzından alev çıkaran süper. Ama ten rengi ogreleri pek sevmiyorum, daha koyu tatta bişey olsalar daha güzel...
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2. resimdeki harikaymış!
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Açıklama getireyim hemen ne nedir diye.
İlk iki resimdekiler special karakterler.
Akbabalı abi bineğindenki hunter. Akbabada LOS ile çalışan bi ranged weapon.
Hindistan gurusu ogre karışımı jonglör abi lore of fire bilen, atakları flaming olan, (ogre büyücüleri great weapon alabiliyo :) ), flame template ile atak yapabilen bi ogre.
Son resimdeki, benim favorim, mournfang adlı ogre cavalry'sinin şampiyonu. Elindeki pistol de kendisi için bi upgrade.
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yeni modeller gerçekten süper olmuş... bu arada o alev üfleyen amcayı boyamamk ayrı bir dert... sadece fotonun çekildiği yönden alev efekti verile bilir ama 3d alev boyamak... ouvvvv baby... :D
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valla bunların ogrelik yanı kalmamış bu kadar karizmatik olur mu ya çok beğenim modelleri ayrıca alev effekti için denize güveniyom
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Şööööyle bi grup fotoğrafı:
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116460&d=1313706308)
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cavalary de geldi gözün aydın :)
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adam gibi musician var. çok acayip.
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Valla gözün aydın Deniz... Modeller süper gözüküyor inşallah kuralları da güzel olur...
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Modeller iyi yaw...
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Bikaç ufak şakalar komiklikler. Özellikle sondan üçüncüye dikkat:
Q: The Firebelly seems very cheap if he's got butcher-stats (t5w4 etc)?
A: [Eg Giant-Tripper] The Firebelly has exactly the same stats as a Butcher AFAIK.
Q: On Gnoblar options:
A: [jtrowell] Also, gnoblars can now can have full command (yes, including banner and musician), and the champion is half the usual price for the command upgrade (other command upgrades have the new default 5-gnoblars cost). ... but Sharp stuff is now only a normal throwing weapon, so no more multi-attacks.
Trappers are a unit upgrade every model in enemy unit that successfully charged the gnoblars to take a Dangerous Terrain test… …It's every model in the enemy unit, as long as the Gnobs are charged in the front arc.
Q: Is the presence of Trapper upgrades in Gnoblar units revealed at deployment or are they hidden until the unit is charged?
A: There's nothing about the nature of Trappers in regards to representation, the opponent's knowledge etc. I assume it's totally appropriate to keep quiet about them as you might keep quiet about any other invisible upgrade, like a stat boost. That said, I doubt it'll ever be a point of contention because you'd be daft to field Gnobs without the upgrade IMO.
Q: Do we know if the insignificant rule is still in for Gnoblars and Ogres?
A: [VooDooChilly] Yea insignificant is still in but now called beneath contempt. No panic on friendly units.
Q: On Mournfang Cavalry options?
A: [VooDooChilly] Btw are people aware that MF riders can have IF or GW.
Q: On Hunter options and equipment?
A: [VooDooChilly] Hunter comes with Great Throwing Spears and LA and can take one of the following: XHW, IF, GW or Harpoon, Vulture. Harpoon and Vulture are the same cost.
Blood Vulture missile weapon 36" S4 single shot, Ignore Cover, Quick to Fire
Q: If you could "send out the bird" to scout enemy characters and hidden models in units?
A: [VooDooChilly] Thats what the Rock Eye is for and its half the cost of the Vulture, so you could always take both and say its the Vulture looking around.
Q: Can maneaters take ironfists? In general, what are maneaters weapon and armour options and how expensive are they in gnoblars?
A: [Eg Giant-Tripper, VooDooChilly] Unfortunately I don't think MEs can take IFs. HA is apparently 2 Gnobs, additional hand weapon 1 Gnob, great weapon 5.5 Gnobs, pistol 3.5 Gnobs, brace of pistols 6 Gnobs. Each command option is 5 Gnobs.
Q: How did the Dragonhide Banner change from the current one?
A: [VooDooChilly] Dragonhide is now reroll all 1s on To Hit,To Wound,Saving throws on the turn you charged plus the bearer has S3 Breath Weapon that causes Always Strike Last on the enemy unit until the end of its next turn.
Q: How many Wounds and what toughness do Mournfang Cav. have?
A: [VooDooChilly] 3 and 4
Q: Hunters on foot, can they move and fire with their harpoon launchers?
A: [jtrowell] No, the weapon is only move and fire when the hunter is mounted on a stonehorn.
Q: Any specifics on Goldtooth, other than the early rumors of more combat oriented?
A: Greasus got a bit cheaper, his 4+ ward became a proper ward, he's no longer the BSB, he no longer inflicts additional impact hits, his stupidity ability is limited to 18", he no longer requires Ironguts, put apart from that he's pretty much the same.
Q: Would it be possible for you to go through the Big Names like you did with the magic items?
A: Big names haven't really changed much at all, just point adjustments here and there. Beastkiller is now Hunters only and grants +1 to wound against large targets with both shooting and combat attacks if you're not using a magic weapon. There's a single new one, Brawlerguts, which is quite cheap and allows you to re-roll impact hit wounds.
Q: Does anyone know are the Butchers and the Slaughtermasters still immune to poison?
A: They are.
Q: I wonder if Yhetees still have their -1 to hit and Scale Terrain rules or if Aura of Frost is now the same as in the Storm of Magic book? (-1 WS)?
A: Yhetees are copied and pasted from the SoM book.
Q: Are there any mount options other than a Hunter on a Stonehorn?
A: No.
Q: And are the leadbelcher cannons much differant whilst Ithink about it?
A: [Hragged] Double the range (with long range penalty), D6 shots each, no misfires, move and fire without penalty, can fire every turn (don't need to spend a turn reloading, thank the Maw), slow to fire, minimum unit size of 3, no bonuses from the cannon in combat, and they'll be cheaper.
…Remeber that leadbelcher's need to hit the enemy so its D6 shot each hitting on 4+ per cannon.
Q: Do we have one or more units in the book without models? Like the Hierotitan or the Mangler Squig?
A: Every unit in the book has a model to represent it and all the new models have been leaked. No more surprises I'm afraid.
Q: Any info on Bragg and Golgfag?
A: Trust me, as long as you keep people aware of what Bragg actually does, no-one can accuse you of powergaming with him, he's very expensive for what he does (to be precise, he's 105 Gnobs for Bruiser stats, LA, S6 and HKB in challenges - furthermore if he kills someone in a challenge, all units in base contact are disrupted for a turn).
Golgfag's alright the vast majority of the time too, providing you don't get too lucky with him/equip him to be abusable (he gets 2D6x10 pts worth of free magic items at the start of the game, has slightly upgraded Bruiser stats, LA, lets one unit of Maneaters count as trusted allies and he costs 130 Gnobs).
…And 20pts of other items potentially. Alternatively, he could just have 20pts of items altogether.
…His cost is fixed. The items are completely free.
Q: Both are heroes then (Bragg and Golgfag), I assume? Are there any further Lord SCs besides Greasus and Skrag?
A: Both are heroes, Greasus and Skrag are the only SC lords. Skrag went up 12.5 Gnobs and remained 99% the same, Greasus went down 10 Gnobs and both improved and got worse in different ways.
Q: Any change about gorger?
A: 7.5 Gnobs more, frenzy replaces 'ravenous', ambushers replaces 'blood scent', special choice. Still single models. Skrag doesn't adjust the slots they occupy or anything like that, but still gives them benefits with his cauldron.
Q: Has anyone heard anything about possible upgrades/armament options for Iron guts?
A: There aren't any.
Q: Colour me stupid, but where is the catapult on the thundertusk? I'm seeing the chaintrap and the harpoon launcher, but no catapult. Is the banner supposed to be a catapult?
A: [Eastern Barbarian] imagine more like special ability that WORKS AS stonethrower
…I don't want to spoil EB's fun in regards to keeping people guessing about the Thundertusk, but it's a children's winter pastime... It's a snowball thrower?? Glad GW is adding a bit of comedy
Q: Does it manifest snowballs with its breath?
A: Pretty much. Okay, they're not actually snowballs, they're called something more threatening but that's what everyone is going to envisage, giant snowballs of DOOM.
Q: So both the Stonehorn and the Thundertusk are rather magical creatures, then?
A: The Thundertusk indeed gives off an aura of cold like the Yhetees. They're also incredibly ancient beasts, around when the Dragons and Dragon Ogres were doing their stuff and I'm not just talking about the general species, the individual beasts are that old.
…[Przemcio251] Well the thingy shooting snowballs is kind of fun especialy if you roll missfire it means you didn't shoot the snowball and thats it no missfire chart
As for Thundertusk's: Moves like a minotaur, fights like a ungor, strong as a doombull, tought like a hellcannon, has wounds like a doombull +1, initiative as a dwarf, has the same number of attacks as exalted hero.
Q: Now if we only knew if the new Leadbelcher shots had AP or not?
A: [przemcio251] Well they are slow to fire and AP may be fired after a move with no mod's to hit...
Q: On the Hellheart?
A: I discovered something I can't beleive I missed - for every wizard you manage to affect with the Hellheart, you gain an additional dispel die.
Q: On Ogre Handguns?
A: Multiple shots (Brace), armour piercing, quick to fire. Job's a good 'un.
Q: Can you employ some Ogre units as DoW in other lists?
A: The Dogs of War rule has gone completely.
Q: Does the poison effect on maneaters affect shooting attacks?
A: You're right Avian - it doesn't specify so it applies to both shooting and CC attacks.
Q: On Skrag old special rules?
A: Skrag allows Gorgers to be taken in units of up to 2 and ignore the usual restrictions on duplicate choices.
Q: That being said, is it definatly confirmed that Big names come out of magic item allowence?
A: Big names come out of the item allowance. It's such a shame that all but a couple will never see use, like last time.
Q: How much is giantbreaker? Would work well with either fencer's blades or sword of striking...
A: Same price, same effect, can't opt to flee or deny challenges, no Giant requirement. One of the better ones if not the best.
Q: Scammel, i am sorry if someone already asked or mentioned, what is the max pts of banner can the OK unit take? both of this three unit max 50 pts magic banner? Also, any of the unit's champion can take magic item? Last, do hunter have any range weapon he can take if not mounted?
A: Ironguts, Maneaters and Mournfangs are limited to 50pts per banner. There is no option for any unit champion to take a magic item in the book. The Hunter can take any 3 of his ranged weapons (harpoon, spear and BIRD) whether he's mounted or not.
Q: What does the Hunter’s Throwing spear do?
A: Range 12", S+1, quick to fire. It's alright on foot, but mounted the harpoon is superior.
Q: What is the Harpoon?
A: The harpoon is move or shoot (unless mounted), range 36", S6, D3 wounds, DOES NOT penetrate ranks or ignore armour. Asides from the spear which is free, the Hunter's weapon options are 5 Gnoblars.
Q: Is the bigname Kineater still in the book?
A: Kineater is still in, same effect, 5 Gnobs less.
Q: Is the S4 breath weapon of the Firebelly one use only and can be used in close combat (2d6 S4 hits) as normal breath weapons? Or is it more like lizardmen salamanders, so infinite breaths?
A: It's a S4 flaming breath weapon that acts like an ordinary BRB breath weapon. 60 Gnobs for repeated usage of it would be terrifying.
Q: Can Mournfang Cavalry have Great Weapons?
A: [Przemcio251] You can have either fist or GW the first costs 2.5 gnoblars, the lqtter costs 4 gnoblars.
Q: Is there still the stupid/tough Mawseeker name?
A: [Przemcio251] yes mawseeker + stupidity is still there.
Q: Any Assorted info?
A: [Hitsugaya Toushiro]
-leadbleachers can't stand and shoot
-Stonehorn has the "halves multiple wounds"....the Thundertusk no
-ogres with ironfist are only 16 old gnoblars
-all foot ogres (no mournfang cavalry) can have look-out gnoblar on standard bearer for 2,5 old gnoblars (so you need to buy standard bearer and if he die you lose look out sir on 3+ models)
-rare unit Stonehorn has an ogre beast rider on hit with chaintrap or harpoon launcher for free
-a Stonehorn ridden by Hunter has a special rule that says that ANY SHOOTING ATTACKS against the model are randomized (5+ hunter)......now...normal rulebook rules for templates like cannon balls say that both rider and mount are hit (so a S10 D6 wounds on rider and S10 D6 wounds on mount)......but by rulebook, Army Books rules OVERRIDE rulebook rules......so by RAW it looks like cannon balls on Hunter+Stonehorn only hit 1 of them......if it will not be faqed it's very nice.....hunter on stonehorn could be interesting....a nice Ward save on hunter and the stonehorn halves multiple wounds means a survivable unit....
-stonehorn has frenzy, thundertusk not
-the Great Maw spell is very risky if you roll misfire
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Fazla karizmatik geldiler bana ne bileyim,denildiği gibi enstrüman kullanan ogre musician mı olurmuş hem??? Bir de şu atlıların zırhları hani ilkçağ insanına göre fazla iyi dizayn edilmiş gibime geldi.
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Ve bir artwork daha. Bu arkadaş rare unit.
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116665&d=1313947875)
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O değilde ogre ordusu irili ufaklı fillerden oluşuyor sanki?
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Asıl takıldığım nokta kurbanda da bunlara mı giriyo ogre'ler?
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kurbana kalmadan bize girecekleri kesin...
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kurbana kalmadan bize girecekleri kesin...
size hala stomp yok be abi bi de ordan bak.
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Ogre başlamak isteyenlere fiyat listesi dahi sızdı(rıldı).
Ogre Kingdoms Army Book (hardback, 96 pages): €32,50 £25.00 $41.25
Ogre Kingdoms Magic Cards (7 cards): €3,90 £3.25 $4.95
Plastic
Thundertusk/Stonehorn: €45,50 £36.00 $57.75
Ironblaster/Scraplauncher: €26,00 (old price: €39,00) £20.50 $33.00
Mournfang Cavalry (2 per box): €28,50 ~£21.50 ~$36.00
Ogre Bulls (repack): €30,00 (old price: €30,00) £22.50 $40.00
Gnoblar Warriors (repack): €30,00 (old price: €30,00) £22.50 $40.00
Leadbelchers (repack): €30,00 (old price: €30,00) £22.50 $40.00
Ironguts (repack): €30,00 (old price: €30,00) £22.50 $40.00
Ogre Kingdoms Battalion (repack): €80,00 Unsure seems to be a very cheap battalion.
Finecast
Tyrant (current mini): €30,00 (old price: €32,50) £22.50 $40.00
Butcher (current mini): €30,00 (old price: €30,00) £22.50 $40.00
Gorger (current mini): €20,75 (old price: €17,50) £15.50 $24.75
Yhetees (3 per box, current minis): €39,00 (old price: €52,50) £31.00 $49.50
Golgfag Maneater: €30,00 £22.50 $40.00
Bragg the Gutsman: €30,00 £22.50 $40.00
Firebelly: €30,00 £22.50 $40.00
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gorger dışında hiçbirşeyin fiyatının artmaması daha da ucuzlaması çok acayipmiş. Garip olan adamlar hala finecast yapıyorlar. Nasıl bir ısrarsa bu.
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Bu tip geçişlerde başta hep sıkıntılar olur. Enjeksiyon işi %90 tecrübe ile götürülür, aliminyum enjeksiyon tecrübesi resin de bir işe yaramaz. 1 seneye kalmaz enjeksiyon hataları düzelecektir.
Yane bir kere başladın mı esas ısrar etmemek hata olur, tam işi öğrenirken geri dönersen geçiş dönemindeki hataları yapmakla kalırsın, cefasını çekmiş olursun ama sefa kısmına geçmeden vaz geçmiş olursun.
Ha bu geçişi metal modellerin %10'nunda yapıp sıkıntıları çözdükten sonra tamamına yaysalardı denebilir. Ama genelde kazın ayağı öyle olmuyor, atıyorum resin üreticisi belli miktarın altına istediğin tipte malzeme üretmiyor filan, tabii maliyet baskısı da olunca genelde bu tip geçişlerde gözler kararıyor.
Uzun lafın kısası 2012 2. yarısından itibaren resin modelleri gönül ferahlığıyla alabilirsiniz, o zamana kadar proxy model kullanın artık ;)
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Şu ana kadar kapak dışında en sevdiğim artwork. Go go mournfang cavalry!
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116811&d=1314289704)
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thunderwolf cavalrylerle kapıştıralım.
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Kitabı düşürdüm bi yerlerden. Okumak isteyen bana bi pm...
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Yaşasın 4chan diyoruz ve mesaj kutularınızı kontrol edin diyoruz.
Bu arada core ve special puanları yok ne yazık ki. neden yok bilmiyorum da neyse.
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ab dosyası çıktıysa o daha makbule geçer.
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Soon..
Yazıyor normalde aldığım yerde. Bayağa da trafik var. Herhalde birkaç güne çıkar.
Bulan varsa, süper über olur tabiki.
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Kitabı pm alabilirim. GW sitesine girdim Ogre den başka bişi yok ne lan bu ;D(Edit: site düzelmiş...) Bir iskelet fiyatlarına bakacaktım çooooook iskelet lazım :)
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O değil de GW yeni ogre renklerini benden çalsaymış 8)
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Mournfang cavalry denilen abileri hemen bir puan şokomel olarak özet geçmek istiyorum:
d3 tane s5 impact,
ogreden 3 tane s4 atak
yaratıktan 4 tane s5 atak
s5 stomp
2+ as/6+ws (ironfist özel kuralı)
t4 3wound
ha bayrak alabiliyolar filan, kaç puan bunların tanesi hemen geliyor:
70.
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rare mı special sloot bu kadeşler bu arada hiç beyenmedim of ya bide m.cavalary ayıp ya
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Ogre Army Builder Dosyası:
http://kulesakinleri.org/smf/index.php?topic=514.0
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Mournfang cavalry denilen abileri hemen bir puan şokomel olarak özet geçmek istiyorum:
d3 tane s5 impact,
ogreden 3 tane s4 atak
yaratıktan 4 tane s5 atak
s5 stomp
2+ as/6+ws (ironfist özel kuralı)
t4 3wound
ha bayrak alabiliyolar filan, kaç puan bunların tanesi hemen geliyor:
70.
Puanına uygundur!:)
3 tane knight of realm 72 puan ediyor. 3 wound. 3t - 3s, atlarda vuruyor chargeda s5 oluyor falan filan dersek. Mournfang cavalry açık ara eziyor. Knightların tek artısı rank falan yapmaları. Onun dışında nedir bu yahu adamın her yerinden atak fışkırmakta!
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65 puana TK nın yeni armysinde;
Necropolis Knights var, 2 attacklı sürücü KB li S4 +1 S on charge, 3 attacklı serpent var poisonlı S5 sonra da S5 stomp. 3+ AS T4 3 Wound. Yani ogreler daha iyi ama bizde bu üniteyi bayağı bi şişirebiliriz. Bilemiyecem artık neye göre yapıyolar ama ordular yeterince eşit herhalde... Eski kitaplılar daha geride kalıyolar ama gene de oynanabiliyor.
Deniz hayırlısı olsun, modeller dev senin de ellerinle sahalarda çok güzel görüleceklerinden eminim ;) En kısa zamanda görmek üzere...
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(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1970136a_Blog120911_1.jpg)
Bu nedir? :o :o :o
Nasıl bir model, nasıl bir boyama nasıl bir flocklama, iyiymiş....
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Oha çok güzel olmuş be!
bu arada o cavalary para çokomel eğrisinde rat ogre den başarılı..